Conscious Conversation

Submitted by Carl Flygt on Sat, 08/04/2007 - 7:00pm.



Carl Flygt


Author of
Conversation A New Theory Of Language

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The Conversation is the most fundamental commonplace of human experience, forever and everywhere being taken up and forever and everywhere being broken off. We sense that within it lies the whole of the human potential, but most often within it we find nothing of lasting value. But we sense that somewhere, somehow within conversation there must be a societal Essence that places the thinking human being not in a deadened and separative state, cut off from imaginative contact with other beings and with Life itself, but in something closer to a dream state, or a state of communion, full of intuition, energy, surprise and of unending exaltation and profundity. We look for this state, full of hope and confidence, each time we enter conversation with another human being, and we repeat that hope and confidence endlessly. But do we really know what to expect of our conversations? Do we know how to draw out that sublime state? Do we understand conversation well enough to justify our perpetual hope in its promise?

These hopes, vicissitudes and disappointments were addressed by the anthroposophist Marjorie Spock in a 1983 essay entitled The Art of Goethean Conversation. Here Miss Spock described the anthroposophist’s intuition of conversation, a meeting of souls directed by spirits “across the threshold, in the etheric world, where thoughts,” as Kant said, “are intuitions in the realm of the First Cause.” The anthroposophical vision of a domain of science in which human experience itself is prepared, studied and ultimately revealed to the senses, or to the transcendental sense organs, as a law of cosmic nature – this was the purport of the M.S. essay. By this vision anthroposophy has since been haunted, hoping but not daring to assert and proclaim the wonderful intuition: transcendental conversation among human beings is a real possibility!

The 2006 essay by Carl H. Flygt, Conversation – A New Theory of Language, followed up on the M.S. picture and gave a framework for building up conversations in practical and workable terms with the anthroposophists we know. It showed us how modern science thinks about language and language use generally, and pointed out the important inventions and discoveries that have come since logic was reformulated in the late 19th and early 20th centuries by figures like Frege, Russell and Wittgenstein. In short, it gave us a framework for playing systematic language games in an anthroposophical context, and for opening the human intuition consensually to the spiritual worlds through social methods. Carl Flygt thinks these logical, anthroposophical methods are adequate for a modern initiation science that will keep up with the consciousness studies, brain research and information science currently developing, out of historical necessity, in our secular and materialistically oriented institutions.

Carl lectures and gives workshops on anthroposophical conversation worldwide.


Darwinism and Morality

Submitted by Carl Flygt on Thu, 11/15/2007 - 11:06am.

"Ethical individualism is the crowning feature of that edifice which Darwin and Haeckel have striven to build for natural science.

Rudolf Steiner's Philosophy of Freedom

Submitted by Carl Flygt on Mon, 10/22/2007 - 11:42am.

Steiner's Philosophy of Freedom was written around 1893 as part of his project to reconcile an innate and developing clairvoyant capacity with the Kantian philosophy dominating German thou

The Rights Life

Submitted by Carl Flygt on Fri, 09/28/2007 - 9:31pm.

The life of Rights is the Middle Sphere of the Threefold Social Organism. It's the section that regulates the tendencies that come from the other two spheres.

The Principle of Tolerance

Submitted by Carl Flygt on Fri, 09/14/2007 - 5:27am.

Without tolerance, a healthy diversity in conversation cannot be expected to develop. Diversity is needed for social strength and the overall effectiveness of any social organization.


Submitted by Carl Flygt on Wed, 09/12/2007 - 11:22pm.

Plato (427-347 B.C.E.) is the ancient writer "to whom all of Western philosophy is merely a footnote" (Whitehead).

The Principle of the Weakest Link

Submitted by Carl Flygt on Sun, 09/09/2007 - 11:25am.

In a real Goethean conversation, where people are treating the occasion simultaneously as an artistic performance and as an exercise of the understanding, the field phenomenon that arises depe


Submitted by Carl Flygt on Wed, 09/05/2007 - 10:02pm.

Ludwig Wittgenstein (1889-1951) is known for his contributions to philosophical logic and the interpretation of truth tables, and for the use theory of linguistic meaning.

The Economic Life

Submitted by Carl Flygt on Tue, 08/28/2007 - 2:00pm.

The economic life is made up of promises and actions. Contracts are promises; money is a promise.


Submitted by Carl Flygt on Sat, 08/25/2007 - 12:03pm.

Of the five types of speech act possible for a human being to make, the commissive is most fundamental to the social contract, and to the idea of conversation.


Submitted by Carl Flygt on Thu, 08/23/2007 - 10:14am.

David Hume (1711-1776) is regarded as the most important philosopher ever to have written in English, and the third in the triumvirate of the classical British empiricists which include Locke and Berkeley.

The Principle of Self-Control

Submitted by Carl Flygt on Wed, 08/22/2007 - 7:10pm.

A priori it seems clear that without self-control exercised by the individuals participating in conversation, conversation is impossible. In general, conversations do not occur among the inmates of Bedlam, or other houses of the insane.


Submitted by Carl Flygt on Tue, 08/21/2007 - 6:03pm.

Rene Descartes (1596-1650) is probably the most important influence on the consciousness soul of the present epoch.


Submitted by Carl Flygt on Thu, 08/16/2007 - 3:43pm.

Thomas Hobbes (1588-1679) is the classic analyst of the social organism, the Leviathan of the state which binds u

The Principle of Conversational Ontology

Submitted by Carl Flygt on Wed, 08/15/2007 - 8:17pm.

Generally, the impulse to speak in Goethean conversation is an ontological impulse. It springs from a need to satisfy one's sense of reality.

The Principle of Causal Reference

Submitted by Carl Flygt on Wed, 08/15/2007 - 6:24pm.

Imagine an anthroposophical conversation taking place in real time.


Submitted by Carl Flygt on Mon, 08/13/2007 - 1:27pm.

The significance of Aristotle for Western thought was the way he brought speculative philosophy into the realm of

The Principle of Reproduction

Submitted by Carl Flygt on Sun, 08/12/2007 - 6:23pm.

The mechanical key to conversation is reproduction.


Submitted by Carl Flygt on Sat, 08/04/2007 - 10:02pm.

In a recent post on another thread, I said,